We’re all in this together. As we settle into self-distancing, many of us have to learn how to navigate our daily lives in an unprecedented way. Self-Care is an ongoing series where we’ll chat with some of our favorite artists, creatives and other inspiring experts in their fields about how they’re navigating this moment.

In this episode of Self-Care, Mariela (Mela) Pabón, who you may know as @checkinmela on Instagram, sits down with editor Ecleen Luzmila Caraballo to chat about how the current pressure for creative productivity during a pandemic is “bullsh*t,” how she’s managing and creating during a particularly difficult time and more. Catch the full interview below: