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Victoria Ruiz of Downtown Boys
Do you think music will become more political during the Trump administration?
I think that there is music that is always operating towards an infinity of talking about politics. Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly is one of the most political albums I have ever been affected by. I think that it will now be made even that much more relevant under a white supremacist’s administration. In the song “Why? (The King of Love is Dead),” Nina Simone is talking about the murder of MLK, but the lyrics are constantly made more relevant every time the police kill a person of color and anyone, really. There will hopefully be more people making political music, but I think a lot of musicians have been making political music about liberation such that songs inspired by a white supremacist administration will still not be as great as music that confronts freedom.
What role do you think musicians should play in turbulent political times like this?
I think that musicians should play the same role that everyone else should play, which is using whatever platform you have to try and connect our reality to our visions and dreams. I think touring musicians will need to think about all the places we are going and make sure our bandmates and people that come/want to come are safe. I think being musicians of color, especially being black, Muslim, trans, or an undocumented musician, means being more of a threat to white comfort and fragility, so we will all have more battles to fight. Music is not organizing nor is it a benign service; it’s something in between. Whether musicians like it or not, it mobilizes, so musicians have to think about how it is mobilizing.
How do you see your own music evolving during the Trump administration?
We are close to finishing a new album. All the songs are relevant to confronting the injustice that the white supremacist president-elect represents, but to be honest, they would also be relevant to confronting the injustice Hillary would have represented as president. I think that’s because the music is not meant for the dictator, the boss, the creator of neoliberalism, the deporter-in-chief – the music is meant for everyone else. I think our music will continue to play an offensive game with culture rather than a defensive one. We don’t have to defend white culture and we don’t have to defend fear about being brown; we have to take space, we have to connect, and we have to change the game, not get held down by the players.
Subcomandante Marcos has a quote that I think will drive our new music in a new way, though the music and the way will always be connected to our history as well: “The world we want to transform has already been worked on by history and is largely hollow. We must nevertheless be inventive enough to change it and build a new world. Take care and do not forget ideas are also weapons.”